tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760124847746733855.post5809488596951540097..comments2024-03-07T10:43:06.051-07:00Comments on Rock Art Blog: ELEPHANTIDS IN NORTH AMERICAN ROCK ART - THE MOAB MASTODON:Peter Farishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10925168522417380667noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760124847746733855.post-57560899360695500682021-10-03T10:35:07.461-06:002021-10-03T10:35:07.461-06:00“An interesting study on ‘Men and Elephants in Ame...“An interesting study on ‘Men and Elephants in America’ (Ludwell H. Johnson, “Men and Elephants in America,” The Scientific Monthly 75 (1952), 220-221] . . . concludes: ‘Archaeology has proved that the American Indian hunted and killed elephants; it has also strongly indicated that these elephants have been extinct for several thousand years. This means that the traditions of the Indians recalling these animals have retained their historical validity for great stretches of time. . . Probably the minimum is three thousand years,’ . . . which would place [the elephant’s] extinction about a thousand years B.C.,"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760124847746733855.post-22235729885526361232021-05-14T15:31:08.608-06:002021-05-14T15:31:08.608-06:00Recently i observed a pictograph in mesa verde tha...Recently i observed a pictograph in mesa verde that to me appears to look like an elephant shaped creature. If I could provide a photo to this site I would and would send it to anyone who has an interest. I was stunned as this depiction, if so it would might alter some thinking., Humbly. flysailorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17375217897115377847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760124847746733855.post-87707142915034186912021-05-14T15:30:27.026-06:002021-05-14T15:30:27.026-06:00Recently in Mesa Verde i observed a pictograp of w...Recently in Mesa Verde i observed a pictograp of what appears to be a elephant shaped creature. As this is rare I was stunned and would love some input. I would also sent the image to anyone who has an interest. Comments are very welcome, Humbly. flysailorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17375217897115377847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760124847746733855.post-76655212572802619942012-03-08T16:06:06.965-07:002012-03-08T16:06:06.965-07:00I have a different perspective on this art. Is it ...I have a different perspective on this art. Is it an elephantid? Yes, because of both the trunk and the tail, as well as the overall shape. I also think it is a baby because of the lack of tusks. In addition, it appears to be a dead baby because of the "fingers" on the feet, which represent bones. Check out any skeletal elephantid pictures. Also, the vertebral spines along the back are exagerated to a point, perhaps indicating a dessicated or decomposing animal. The blob on the trunk can be explained if you look at the whole picture. See the short lines that seem to be coming from the neck area? I believe the blob on the trunk is the animal's lower jaw, and the short lines are representative of the blood spilled from a predator tearing out the animal's throat.<br /><br />In my opinion the artist has depicted a dead baby mastadon that was killed by a predator who ripped out its throat. The body had decomposed somewhat, exposing the foot bones and spinal column, and the blood spatter remained or was added by the artist. That's what it looks like to me anyway. The artist was probably familiar with all aspects of these animals' lives from birth to death and decomposition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760124847746733855.post-23106703636322007892010-06-22T21:57:10.483-06:002010-06-22T21:57:10.483-06:00I have been to the Moab Mastadon site and seen it ...I have been to the Moab Mastadon site and seen it for myself. First of all, I must admit that it is completely unlike any other rock art in that immediate area (and there is A LOT), which to me suggested that it was earlier or at least made by a different group. It seems completely atypical of the rock art in that area to draw a bear with a fish in its mouth, but it's possible.<br /><br />However, it is worth mentioning to anyone who has been to the Colorado River country near Moab, UT and can't imagine a bear living there- directly across the river from the Moab Mastadon glyph is an extremely well preserved and blatantly obvious life-size petroglyph of a bear (albeit in a rather different style). <br /><br />My personal opinion: It's legitDaniel and Angie Callisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12679563331196541427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760124847746733855.post-51613787742618495692010-03-21T17:19:14.414-06:002010-03-21T17:19:14.414-06:00"So let’s give credit where credit is due – w..."So let’s give credit where credit is due – while we may not have a petroglyph of an extinct mastodon, we just might have a petroglyph of an endangered fish."<br /><br />I beg to differ, and should you be interested in putting a fish in its mouth please respond. ;-)<br />I would be interested in your comments....<br /><br />Although I would be inclined not to believe it is a dipiction of a Mammoth, it certainly isn't a bear either....<br /><br />Daniel<br />daniel.l@digis.netAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com